(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[7200]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
GN[2013 US Open Rd 6 Brd 1 - Evan Cho 7d (w) Yuhan Zhang 7d (b)]PW[Evan Cho]PB[Yuhan Zhang]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2013-08-10]RO[6]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Dennis Wheeler]C[USGO1 [-\]: Slow start this morning. Now all the players are in the room yet. Lots of chatter, maybe only one or two games have started so far
USGO1 [-\]: The players bow, and start their clock
]RE[W+0.50]
;B[pd]C[FlameSword [2d?\]: yuhan is 5-0
USGO1 [-\]: Welcaome to the final round of the US Open at the 29th US Go Congress in Tacoma Washington
Nikolaj [2k\]: Tacoma.. isnt that outside seattle?
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;W[dd]
;B[qp]
;W[dq]
;B[co]C[Zickkun [3k\]: dang, I never bow in my go club, they must think badly of me
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;W[cj]
;B[hq]C[USGO1 [-\]: The room is quiet now, as most of the games have begun
HKA [2d\]: I can picture it almost as if I was there....
Nikolaj [2k\]: is there a live feed?
Roosta [1d?\]: all I want to know is how nice their finger nails are
FlameSword [2d?\]: hm
Muttley [2k\]: Manicured.
USGO1 [-\]: Evan is holding his closed fan in his hands, arms folded on the table
Muttley [2k\]: c4 c5 f3 c8 e10 looks suffice to be for w, but I don't know this pincer at all
happysocks [-\]: wouldn't you like to know about the eyelashes Roosta?  
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;W[cp]
;B[do]C[happysocks [-\]: that might give more cues as to how the games are progressing
Zickkun [3k\]: what is the purpose of fan in go?
Potter117 [9k\]: Keep you calm
Akagi316 [-\]: to look cool
BOThater36 [4d\]: any1 knows that if Zhang already locked up the open champion?
gentoo [-\]: to invoke the spirits of go masters past
HKA [2d\]: for me, the fan keeps my hand from playing the stone too fast.
impetus [1d\]: computing needs cooling
Potter117 [9k\]: kinda like on a school test you might twirl or chew on your pencil. 
USGO1 [-\]: Yuhan is sucking on his small box of chololate milk
Akagi316 [-\]: lol
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;W[fq]C[SantaClaus [?\]: ...
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;B[go]C[insomniac [4k\]: what brand!
Muttley [2k\]: The joseki tattoo on his neck glistens slightly in the sunshine
Zickkun [3k\]: chocolate milk vs fan
Potter117 [9k\]: ahahahahahaaaaaa
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;W[nq]C[impetus [1d\]: nice call muttley
Muttley [2k\]: ok, so b goes for bigger than c8 ..
Muttley [2k\]: hehe :)
Ben [2d?\]: who is winning?
gocanbefun [4k\]: Aren't you playing a game HKA?
Muttley [2k\]: I think this makes m3 nice for b
HKA [2d\]: sadly left early, I am home
Muttley [2k\]: hello sweety :))
HKA [2d\]: but I was TD for the room they are in for the first 4 rounds
HelloQtion [-\]: m3 b leave lot of aji in bottom and it would be hard to build after that
Potter117 [9k\]: What joseki is it muttley?
HelloQtion [-\]: I wouldn't know how to at least :)
sweety [-\]: hello everyone
HelloQtion [-\]: hi sweety
SantaClaus [-\]: hello
Muttley [2k\]: The most important one of all: the Taisha
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;B[lp]C[HKA [2d\]: sadly sweety left even earlier than I did
HelloQtion [-\]: Oh m4 !
sweety [-\]: im back, HKA
Muttley [2k\]: heh, m4, m3, a world apart
Zickkun [3k\]: is sweety a girl?
HKA [2d\]: oh, good for Tacoma
HelloQtion [-\]: yes mutt :)
Muttley [2k\]: ok, Yuhan is going to fight fight fight :)
SantaClaus [-\]: thats what we want to see
Muttley [2k\]: and white must struggle not to drown early
USGO1 [-\]: Evan straightens the stone (but pulls it slightly off center). Yuhan restraightens it
HKA [2d\]: I am weak, but Yuhan is all about power, he does not take territory very much
Muttley [2k\]: that's the downside of the c4/f3 combo, influence
Zickkun [3k\]: what's the difference between m3 and m4?
HKA [2d\]: Evan seems to like terrritory a bit more
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;W[lq]
;B[kq]
;W[kp]C[HKA [2d\]: so it could be a nice style match
Muttley [2k\]: influence, Zickkun, come on, you know that :)
HelloQtion [-\]: Ooooh this is fun
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;B[ko]
;W[jp]
;B[jq]C[HelloQtion [-\]: I was thinking w would have played q4 joseki
Zickkun [3k\]: no, there too many variations.. usually I just randomly choose one
AzureSea [4d\]: goo yuhan /o/
AzureSea [4d\]: \\o\\\\
USGO1 [-\]: Evan restraightens all the stones several times
Potter117 [9k\]: sounds like he is very nervous.
Zickkun [3k\]: and this variation is complicated too...
just9x9 [-\]: if i were his opponent i would give an accidental  hit at the table with my leg now :)
SantaClaus [-\]: keep us informed on yuhans chocolate milk
Muttley [2k\]: it looks like a burden for w now
rats [2d?\]: hehe
gocanbefun [4k\]: Who may I ask is our host? I like the chocolate milk and other details.
HelloQtion [-\]: M3 may not as fun for Evan than Yuhan and kibitzer !
Muttley [2k\]: I guess w still has r3, but I don't like how low w is
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;W[ip]C[just9x9 [-\]: j4 wow
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;B[iq]C[Muttley [2k\]: well, what else?
just9x9 [-\]: now ladder works?
rats [2d?\]: well, i don't think the center stones are worth anything at all
SantaClaus [-\]: but ladder hurts the m3 stones
rats [2d?\]: i thought the whole purpose to this was to get some forceful play against r4
Muttley [2k\]: that's a tough call
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;W[qq]C[Muttley [2k\]: so we got r3 in the end ....
HelloQtion [-\]: I wouldn't play the ladder more hoping for a move like O5
HelloQtion [-\]: or siilar
USGO1 [-\]: Evan slaps that one down
rats [2d?\]: yes, but with the aji of the m5 ataris
Muttley [2k\]: USGO, how old is Evan, please?
Muttley [2k\]: 20s?
BOThater36 [4d\]: still in USC I guess
Muttley [2k\]: mmkay
Zickkun [3k\]: University of South California?
BOThater36 [4d\]: y
Muttley [2k\]: is there any choice other than q3?
rats [2d?\]: q3 may be dangerous
Muttley [2k\]: hmm, can't see q4 being better, though
Zickkun [3k\]: k4 white stones... looks very bad, am I right?
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;B[mq]C[rats [2d?\]: k4 stones were kikashi
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;W[pp]
;B[qo]C[Zickkun [3k\]: kakashi.. like ninja?
BOThater36 [4d\]: I like B here
Muttley [2k\]: but m2 ..
rats [2d?\]: yes, i think b handled this stylishly
Muttley [2k\]: I guess s3 is the real honte for w?
rats [2d?\]: m2, m5, n2, j5
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;W[po]C[Zickkun [3k\]: jpm
rats [2d?\]: r6
Zickkun [3k\]: sorry, butter finger, just looked up honte, it means solid correct mooooove
ThiGar [3k\]: surely b won't sacrifice r5
HelloQtion [-\]: Nice supposition 
rats [2d?\]: one of the pros last night had a funny definition for honte
USGO1 [-\]: Evan sits back in his chair, while Yuhan rarely changes his posture, constaintly leaning on the table, head bowed over the board
just9x9 [-\]: honte=lame ?
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;B[qn]C[ThiGar [3k\]: yes, i bet it wasn't all that positive
BOThater36 [4d\]: honte == lazy man's moves
ThiGar [3k\]: lol
just9x9 [-\]: push again
rats [2d?\]: honte is like running ccleaner on the pc
Merlot [1k\]: n4
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;W[pn]
;B[qm]
;W[lr]
;B[mp]
;W[mr]
;B[io]C[just9x9 [-\]: wow j5
Zickkun [3k\]: I thought ccleaner is quite good
Muttley [2k\]: ok, w sets out his stall :)
ThiGar [3k\]: iow, the system needs to stay stable
rats [2d?\]: then you may also like honte zickkun :p
Zickkun [3k\]: yeah, I like s3 the honte move.. but w doesn't play it..
I23456789 [5k?\]: sets out his stall??
just9x9 [-\]: j5 was honte
Muttley [2k\]: says "This is the approach I will take"
Muttley [2k\]: English idiom
Zickkun [3k\]: dang, there so many hontes
USGO1 [-\]: Evan absentmindedly claps his fan open and closed a few times
ThiGar [3k\]: you mean it's like a giveaway?
I23456789 [5k?\]: thanks, muttley
Bauer [1d\]: w will tenuki and look for a big point
just9x9 [-\]: s3 is a big point...
rats [2d?\]: s3 is the big point
rats [2d?\]: s3, r10, then white tenuki
Potter117 [9k\]: Bauer is you first name Jack by any chance?
dogbert [3d\]: W IS CONSIDERING RESIGNING ALREADY?
dogbert [3d\]: oops
rats [2d?\]: nice dogbert
dogbert [3d\]: sorry for shouting:)
BOThater36 [4d\]: dog, what u talking about? :-)
backpack1 [3d\]: now you got our attention, pls say something smart ;)
kmr [1d\]: M5 now i think
ThiGar [3k\]: not sure b's 5th line wall wil yield much influence
Zickkun [3k\]: the way I look at this is that w has most of the corner and gets out, that's a win
dogbert [3d\]: usgo1 said cho played his fan
Roosta [1d?\]: w is considering resigning because he doesn't want to embarrass his opponent
rats [2d?\]: it's not perfect thickness yet
rats [2d?\]: still can be cut around the f5 area
Zickkun [3k\]: b does have thickness, but the direction...
Merlot [1k\]: Q7 is big
BOThater36 [4d\]: I am too weak to say who is better, But I like B, he who controls the sky, control the game, NBA
dogbert [3d\]: honte here is E10
asgggs: no
dogbert [3d\]: or S3
awesome [4k\]: b got air superiority
USGO1 [-\]: The top boards are using new game clocks donated by the KABA (Korean Amatuer Baduk Assoc)
just9x9 [-\]: do they speak?
asgggs: in English?
Zickkun [3k\]: I don't know if this is honte, but I would play in the o17 area
just9x9 [-\]: o17 is no honte
sfghdsfh: honte is a move that really gets rid of aji
USGO1 [-\]: the display is facing away from me, so I can't tell whose move it is (in case I missed a move)
sfghdsfh: so o17 is clearly not honte^^
asgggs: but O17 still much playable
Potter117 [9k\]: Lol are we just going to start indiscriminately throwing around the word honte now? 
sfghdsfh: yeah o17 does not seem bad
just9x9 [-\]: lets hope the board is facing you ;)
awesome [4k\]: I think w will  exploit b weak points first
sfghdsfh: i would s3 though
asgggs: honte is a term for local positions, usually not for the whole board
sfghdsfh: if b s3 then w is not even alive there
awesome [4k\]: big is small
sfghdsfh: there is a term for whole board honte too, but i dont remember it
dogbert [3d\]: honte is 本手 for these who don't know:)
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;W[rq]C[dogbert [3d\]: see
rich2011 [2d\]: 俗手呢？
USGO1 [-\]: slowly played
awesome [4k\]: the s3 crowd wins
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;B[np]C[Zickkun [3k\]: yay honte
Roosta [1d?\]: using japanese terms when a korean player playing a chinese player
rats [2d?\]: did white slam s3 down as well?
sfghdsfh: b r10 next to be expected
replicator [2d\]: honte is when you would rather tenuki and play a big move, but realistically you need to play a local usually small looking move because it is urgent and important
HKA [2d\]: wow, my view of power vs territory is right so far
Bauer [1d\]: a, s3 was the big point
asgggs: roosta, Korean China and Japan mostly share the same go terms but in different pronunciations
just9x9 [-\]: is there a korean or chinese word for honte?
rats [2d?\]: or kind of dejectedly slid it there?
USGO1 [-\]: it was as if he were playing in slow motion, stretching his arm across the board
Roosta [1d?\]: I thought they all used their own terms, in each language
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;W[oq]
;B[pm]C[rats [2d?\]: thick turn
awesome [4k\]: I like this
Zickkun [3k\]: what's honte in English?
BOThater36 [4d\]: clearly B leads
USGO1 [-\]: the stone slips out of Yuhan's fingers and slids a bit across the board
crunchy: "the right move"
USGO1 [-\]: *slides
ThiGar [3k\]: honte is early stabilization 
fc [1k\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?Honte
Potter117 [9k\]: I've always been told it roughly means "honest play"
asgggs: honte, literally means, root(basic, principle) moves
Zickkun [3k\]: once b gets p6 or something like that, w is stuck in... and that's huge
rats [2d?\]: but spending 2 gote moves to do that = not as huge as may seem at first
kmr [1d\]: this seems so bad for white....maybe i dont get sth?!
rats [2d?\]: well, benefit is if white has stones around q12 area, even though black can jump into the center near the n4 stones, the connection still won't be perfect, so can be cut
Zickkun [3k\]: in any opening, if you are completely stuck in and only gets a 13 point corner seems bad locally
BOThater36 [4d\]: white has no clear exit route, although B not cleanly enclose
asgggs: roosta, for instance of Korean and Japanese go terms, Joseki-Jeongseok, Fuseki-Poseok, Shusaku-Suchaek, Honinbo-Boninbang etc. things are exactly same words pronounced in their own way
USGO1 [-\]: Yuhan leans in closer to the board. Evan leans back in his chair bitting gently on the end of his fan
Fredda [-\]: l4 was the overplay
Merlot [1k\]: L16
awesome [4k\]: yuhan has fans?
USGO1 [-\]: aren't you guys his fans?
SantaClaus [-\]: yea they make him really cool
BOThater36 [4d\]: what fan or fans u talking about?
awesome [4k\]: I want video stream
USGO1 [-\]: I want a pony
awesome [4k\]: :D
just9x9 [-\]: i want k16
HKA [2d\]: ok, now I am sure Dennis is not USGO1 today
rats [2d?\]: USG01 is doing a decent job of letting us know all the juicy tidbits going on - with all this fan biting going on, things are really heating up!
SantaClaus [-\]: i liked his chocolate milk comment
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;W[fc]C[AzureSea [4d\]: xD
Potter117 [9k\]: I agree rats. I enjoy the play by play
SantaClaus [-\]: really made the game interesting
USGO1 [-\]: Evan takes a break from the table
Zickkun [3k\]: wow, this move feels so good, why haven't I thought of this
BOThater36 [4d\]: next move, any1 guess
Potter117 [9k\]: Q11
awesome [4k\]: I never play moves like f17. If I have a stone in the corner I play on side instead
HelloQtion [-\]: O17
FTawesome [1d?\]: somewhere on top probably
rayquaza [6d\]: f17 is correct
WuHoUnited [1k\]: l16 
dogbert [3d\]: e11 oe o17
WuHoUnited [1k\]: k16 
fgjhfjh: o16 
BOThater36 [4d\]: top side, right side or left side?
just9x9 [-\]: g16 and feel like takemiya
Potter117 [9k\]: right side
fgjhfjh: g16 is a fine move too
fgjhfjh: but before it should invade the korner
WuHoUnited [1k\]: e10 if he could do it in cente
WuHoUnited [1k\]: *sente
ligo [4k\]: o6
fgjhfjh: b15 
BOThater36 [4d\]: WuHo United, this name very political
zaboomafoo [3k\]: tengen
ThiGar [3k\]: r12 or e11
WuHoUnited [1k\]: this name is unpolitical
BOThater36 [4d\]: lol
WuHoUnited [1k\]: this name is in honor of WuhoBot
Potter117 [9k\]: next move = frisbee the board at the nearest spectator.
HKA [2d\]: I would be surprised if he plays e10 02 e11
strange123: so, w is cho chikun?
Merlot [1k\]: L17
strange123: just o17
strange123: b is fine
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;B[ch]C[strange123: lol c12
strange123: terrible move
SantaClaus [-\]: any winners?
BOThater36 [4d\]: my feeling, but dare not to guess, b plays left side
asgggs: not bad
strange123: ok eggs
asgggs: asggs
Zickkun [3k\]: I don't like this... it doesn't feel good
Muttley [2k\]: fail.
asgggs: [azgz\]
ThiGar [3k\]: c12 instant weak group?
HKA [2d\]: this is best use of his center power for fiighting
strange123: best use... there is no best use in go
gocanbefun [4k\]: He's tryingto use his thickness and keep w weak
ThiGar [3k\]: oh, i see, c12 makes use of wall
Muttley [2k\]: come on c7, get ready for the vularity of g4
HKA [2d\]: watching his games this week, he does not make moyo, he makes thickness and fights
strange123: where is gobugobu for make decent comments please
lifeisgood [-\]: too early... better to continue building moyo I think
Muttley [2k\]: I suspect gobu has gone to bed
strange123: argh
Zickkun [3k\]: if w keeps placing stones from E10 to R10, doesn't b thickness turn to waste?
ThiGar [3k\]: UI feature suggestion: sort the watchers list by strength
Muttley [2k\]: right click on any user in list, it is there
Muttley [2k\]: sort by rank
ThiGar [3k\]: yes, just tried it immediately, i'm stupid
Muttley [2k\]: not at all, we all learn for the first time some time :)
bran [3k\]: w f5 is a cut if w extends now
asgggs: w E11 seems possible
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;W[fo]C[Bauer [1d\]: this early cut is a surprise
USGO1 [-\]: Evan takes another break, walking around the room
cjalden [2k\]: well timed, before b got in e4
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;B[fn]
;W[gp]
;B[hp]
;W[gn]
;B[ep]
;W[eq]
;B[ho]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: e6?
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;W[ei]C[USGO1 [-\]: Clack!
BOThater36 [4d\]: this fight is worth watching
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;B[be]C[BOThater36 [4d\]: game is here
asgggs: C16 normal
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;W[cd]
;B[eg]C[USGO1 [-\]: sorry.. mouse slip
dutch2dan [2d\]: np, happens to the best
Potter117 [9k\]: No undos! gosh. :p
USGO1 [-\]: should I make them play where I click?
Potter117 [9k\]: yes
Ootakamoku [2d\]: you should have claimed they did undo in the game, scribe is always right
dutch2dan [2d\]: a1, a2 :)
HKA [2d\]: again, this is not Dennis
USGO1 [-\]: its me. am I being out of character?
dutch2dan [2d\]: both :D
USGO1 [-\]: maybe unprofessional.. sorry
HKA [2d\]: no, not at all
Muttley [2k\]: you're sacked.
BOThater36 [4d\]: both players think around the cut of D10 by B
Muttley [2k\]: Santa's naughty list!
gocanbefun [4k\]: not at all-keep going as you were
USGO1 [-\]: late night.. trying not to doze off..
Muttley [2k\]: mind you, everyone worth knowing is on Santa's naughty list
HKA [2d\]: you are doing fantastic
Muttley [2k\]: Evan returns to the board.  He sees whilst he has been gone, Yuhan has got a second joseki tattoo
Potter117 [9k\]: You are what is commonly known as "the best"
Muttley [2k\]: this time, it is a Great Avalanche.
Ootakamoku [2d\]: ask e6 white it's still useful?
awesome [4k\]: the captain of scribes
asgggs: w C7 might happen to be sente because of E6 aji, but b can fight
Bauer [1d\]: e6 looks good
Thumb [3d\]: It's a Great Avalanche when roused only, I guess
USGO1 [-\]: be sure to tell my boss.. its better if it doesn't come from me :)
Thumb [3d\]: *aroused
Muttley [2k\]: Are you paid by the move?
dogbert [3d\]: w e6 b would c8
Muttley [2k\]: If so, hope for yose.
Potter117 [9k\]: Give us his email. we will all spam him saying you need more money!
Muttley [2k\]: w stones still have no shape
ThiGar [3k\]: Santa, avalanche... dreams caused by heat wave over Tacoma?
dutch2dan [2d\]: @Potter... I bet your first name is Harry...
Potter117 [9k\]: ahahahaaaaa.
Potter117 [9k\]: No my first name is Ryan.
Ootakamoku [2d\]: dogbert, if w gets ponnuki there he will be very happy
Muttley [2k\]: I think the books would have been better if he had been called "Carlos Potter".
Potter117 [9k\]: dutch, I used to look just like the actor in middle school, and it stuck. :p
dogbert [3d\]: b would be ok if it connect with b10
CptHook [5k\]: d12?
asgggs: no
Muttley [2k\]: I just feel this fight will go better for b unless w f13 here
Ootakamoku [2d\]: cpthook, you intend to push and cut?
Akagi316 [-\]: c7
ThiGar [3k\]: this fight could be text book quality
USGO1 [-\]: Evan sits sideways in his chair sipping his coffee while pondering his next move
CptHook [5k\]: sure
Ootakamoku [2d\]: b atari cutting stone down, it dies
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;W[cg]C[CptHook [5k\]: no
asgggs: ;)
Eduardo [2k\]: haha, usgo, thx!! nice comments , egc2013a was boring :/
Eduardo [2k\]: u are nice :p
Potter117 [9k\]: USGO1 the lil details about cofee make the game so much better. 
USGO1 [-\]: taking a stone from the bowl, holding it high above the board for a few seconds, slams it down
dogbert [3d\]: lol
dogbert [3d\]: egomaniacs
guapo [2k\]: i can almost see it
BOThater36 [4d\]: he didnt swallow it? right?
Roosta [1d?\]: the commentary makes it more fun than actually seeing it, the mind's eye embellishes the details
USGO1 [-\]: hey.. don't be diss'ing my egc buddies
guapo [2k\]: usgo >> egc
Potter117 [9k\]: not dissing them, just complimenting you
Potter117 [9k\]: :p
BOThater36 [4d\]: gee, I dont know how to answer C13. If i play, I resign
Akagi316 [-\]: lol
Ootakamoku [2d\]: usgo is an egc side event?
CptHook [5k\]: this is right move - not alowed enemy to stabilizate the group
Eduardo [2k\]: nops
dutch2dan [2d\]: c14 too ambitious?
gobugobu [7d\]: b13 d12 c14 d13 d14 b12 f14 is too easy on W
awesome [4k\]: gobu is here!
dogbert [3d\]: hahaha,most egc scribes are french they dislike speaking proper english:)
Eduardo [2k\]: united states go congress! ootaka
pityokos [4k\]: locally, what's the response to w e6?
Zickkun [3k\]: C13 goves me chills
guapo [2k\]: b13 only
dutch2dan [2d\]: gansheng, any comments?
gobugobu [7d\]: b13 d12 d13 c14 c11 makes better shape - how will B answer that?
Eduardo [2k\]: :o, gobu, b13
USGO1 [-\]: Evan stands up, but no long enough for usgo1 to take advantage of for a break of his own
Eduardo [2k\]: i thought that too
USGO1 [-\]: *not
Potter117 [9k\]: lol
Ootakamoku [2d\]: eduardo, cool. didnt know egc was branching of to the states.
USGO1 [-\]: ah.. here's my chance.. let me know if I miss anything.. brb
Bauer [1d\]: why not c14?
CptHook [5k\]: weak
gobugobu [7d\]: if B d12 b12 seems normal
dogbert [3d\]: d12
gobugobu [7d\]: then b11 b13 c11 means b15 dies without aji
gobugobu [7d\]: that's not so funny
BOThater36 [4d\]: Oo, I am disapointed that u dont know what is USGO...
BOThater36 [4d\]: u r not my freidn anymore :-)
gobugobu [7d\]: what if B d13 c14 and then?
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;B[dh]C[dogbert [3d\]: dogbert rules
Eduardo [2k\]: d12 .....yes
Ootakamoku [2d\]: :-P
USGO1 [-\]: Yuhan plays his move as Even and usgo1 both return at the same time
USGO1 [-\]: *Evan
Eduardo [2k\]: the sequence of gobu now!
Eduardo [2k\]: b12
Ootakamoku [2d\]: but it's really a pity the congresses are at the same time
BOThater36 [4d\]: I am thnking b12 too, but to much B center
Eduardo [2k\]: a super final USGOvsEGC would be nice xD
Ootakamoku [2d\]: d12 looks ambitious
dogbert [3d\]: yeah tooo tired from watching go these days, usgo, egc, samsung, mlily etc etc
anasazi [6k\]: do we get transmistions from EGC anywhere?
Eduardo [2k\]: nops :/
gondwana [6k\]: if B15 dies without aji but b gets an attack on the e11 stones isn't it fair ?
anasazi [6k\]: so we cant even get sgf of EGC nither?
Ootakamoku [2d\]: e6 aji kinda ensures the w stones can't be attacked
kmr [1d\]: if blacks gets attack on e11 it should be good for him
Eduardo [2k\]: b11 maybe :/, and then c7?
kukulis4 [2d\]: b15 is light
Eduardo [2k\]: e8 :/
USGO1 [-\]: Evan drops a stone on the board disturbing a few other stones.. he quickly puts it back in the bowl and fixes the others
Eduardo [2k\]: xD
]
;W[bh]
;B[bi]C[ThiGar [3k\]: EGC 2013 final results are in: http://egc2013.go.art.pl/EGC2013_main.html
]
;W[bf]
;B[ah]C[Eduardo [2k\]: o.o
Eduardo [2k\]: gobu, are u agree with this ko?
kukulis4 [2d\]: may be white going to play ko ?
Ootakamoku [2d\]: egc games can be found on the egc scribe accounts
Ootakamoku [2d\]: here on kgs
]
;W[ag]
;B[bg]
;W[en]C[BOThater36 [4d\]: wow, such a big ko
]
;B[fm]
;W[bh]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: has white enough ko threats?
Ootakamoku [2d\]: this ko looks huge
]
;B[bp]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: whoever wins this will get everything in that area
kukulis4 [2d\]: but there is not very mutch ko threats on board yet
BOThater36 [4d\]: should B just connect C11 earlier?
]
;W[ai]C[Eduardo [2k\]: ?
BOThater36 [4d\]: ouch
kukulis4 [2d\]: white corner dead?
BOThater36 [4d\]: not easy
]
;B[bq]
;W[eo]C[Eduardo [2k\]: neat!
kukulis4 [2d\]: white escapes probably
Ootakamoku [2d\]: don't think corner can be killed
Wagaboo [2k\]: salut les gens :)
Eduardo [2k\]: salut waga
Wagaboo [2k\]: ow le coin en haut a gauche
]
;B[em]C[BOThater36 [4d\]: B played A12 too fast, without even thinking
]
;W[dn]
;B[cm]C[CptHook [5k\]: yes
Ootakamoku [2d\]: too much aji
kukulis4 [2d\]: may be white d4 is enough here?
BOThater36 [4d\]: if corner dead, it is a fair trade
Ootakamoku [2d\]: true
]
;W[cn]
;B[bn]C[Wagaboo [2k\]: i think it'll live in  comb shape
Ootakamoku [2d\]: but w doesn't seem to want a fair trade
]
;W[dp]
;B[bo]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: white lives in gote
]
;W[cr]
;B[dm]
;W[fp]
;B[dj]C[rayquaza [6d\]: w being crushed
Eduardo [2k\]: w?
]
;W[qf]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: but ..
Wagaboo [2k\]: rayqaza u sure ?
kukulis4 [2d\]: doesnt white have more points here ?
Eduardo [2k\]: sure?... looks like bad ko ro b :/
rayquaza [6d\]: b thickness is too much
]
;B[qh]C[Bloodmaid [6d\]: i agree
rayquaza [6d\]: very hard for w to win now
Ootakamoku [2d\]: b influence looks flawless and spans half the board but I still prefer w
Wagaboo [2k\]: rayquaza, as w is solid everywhere it's ok no ?
Eduardo [2k\]: i agree, but, being crushed? 
Muttley [2k\]: R17 for completeness
USGO1 [-\]: Yuhan slowly slides his bowl along side the board closer to that corner before playing there
]
;W[ph]
;B[qi]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: :)
kukulis4 [2d\]: psichological things ;)
Muttley [2k\]: this joseki is too slow for white?
Wagaboo [2k\]: k13 will be a good move later :)
Ootakamoku [2d\]: good strategy. brings support stones closer to the fight
kukulis4 [2d\]: if its joseki, then it is not slow
Eduardo [2k\]: a joseki can be slow
Muttley [2k\]: joseki can be locally good, globally bad
kukulis4 [2d\]: if it is slow, it is not a joseki 
kukulis4 [2d\]: ok
Muttley [2k\]: oh garbage ku :))
kukulis4 [2d\]: :)
Muttley [2k\]: hehehe :)
]
;W[of]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: p14
Muttley [2k\]: you know what I mean :)
kukulis4 [2d\]: not absolutely sure ;)
Muttley [2k\]: hehehe, I thought w would connect at q13, but this gives a choice
Eduardo [2k\]: ok....risk bet!
Muttley [2k\]: at which point, q13 for me looks too slow, sorry for not being clearer :)
vitamancy [7k\]: So Zhang is 5-0 and Cho is 4-1 in the Open.  What are tie-break rules if Cho wins this game?
BOThater36 [4d\]: good question
BOThater36 [4d\]: Yuhan may have locked in regardless w or l
cjalden [2k\]: SOS - sum of opponent's scores
BOThater36 [4d\]: Yuhan has edge
vitamancy [7k\]: thanks cjalden.
Eduardo [2k\]: should be cho, because he won yuhan
gobugobu [7d\]: at some point in the very near future, as W I wanna play d11 c11 b10 and start a fight
BOThater36 [4d\]: no, yuhan beat no 1,2 3 in this filed
Muttley [2k\]: me too, gobu
Muttley [2k\]: I thought it was the only way to play irt
Muttley [2k\]: it
cjalden [2k\]: W has about 40 total at moment.  Can B potential be less than that?
Muttley [2k\]: take gote, and fight like a lion
USGO1 [-\]: http://www.usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/
BOThater36 [4d\]: like ur phrase, muttley
Muttley [2k\]: hehehe, thanks :)
BOThater36 [4d\]: take sente, fight like chicken
Muttley [2k\]: lol
Eduardo [2k\]: xd
Ootakamoku [2d\]: w closer to 50 by my count, plus komi
Muttley [2k\]: if you have ever seen chicken fight, you'll know how scary that actually is
rats [2d?\]: black can give up all corners, as long as he controls the center well
]
;B[nc]C[cjalden [2k\]: with prisoners and komi about 50, right
Muttley [2k\]: all claws and beaks
Eduardo [2k\]: but are aga rules , difficult to count 
Muttley [2k\]: well, w has to make this fly with bad aji
gobugobu [7d\]: q11 q10 r10 s10 r9 s9 ?
]
;W[pi]C[rats [2d?\]: i feel once white stabalizes with this q12 group, it will be hard for b to get enough
]
;B[qj]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: this looks to good for w
Ootakamoku [2d\]: works so nicely globally
Eduardo [2k\]: b is fine too
Ootakamoku [2d\]: o12
ranin19 [7k\]: k17
Wagaboo [2k\]: x bon pour blanc tout ces echanges !
ranin19 [7k\]: r17
gobugobu [7d\]: s16 r17 r13 would be peaceful, but maybe s16 r13 and then???
]
;W[rd]C[BOThater36 [4d\]: evan attend my tournament held in May and win it all
Wagaboo [2k\]: !!!
Ootakamoku [2d\]: to me only choice here is how you stabilize that w group
Wagaboo [2k\]: r15 s15 r13  and it's trouble ?
kukulis4 [2d\]: what if white P9 next ?
]
;B[qg]C[sandbag [3d\]: here we go
Wagaboo [2k\]: so r13 first
]
;W[pg]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: white simply Q13
]
;B[rf]
;W[qe]C[Wagaboo [2k\]: :O
Eduardo [2k\]: ugly shape
]
;B[qc]C[BOThater36 [4d\]: who ugly?
Wagaboo [2k\]: s15  so free
Ootakamoku [2d\]: shape malfunction for w?
pityokos [4k\]: j17
Ootakamoku [2d\]: n12
BOThater36 [4d\]: m or n 12
Eduardo [2k\]: w have to play with q13 group
Eduardo [2k\]: no j17 pity
BOThater36 [4d\]: m or n 11
Eduardo [2k\]: why 11 now?
vitamancy [7k\]: why 11 and not 12 hater?
BOThater36 [4d\]: reduce B center
bran [3k\]: l12
]
;W[lg]C[vitamancy [7k\]: or 13...:)
BOThater36 [4d\]: lol, all wrong
]
;B[bj]C[Eduardo [2k\]: -__-
BOThater36 [4d\]: thick move
Ootakamoku [2d\]: g13
Wagaboo [2k\]: it's big but gote :(
]
;W[lc]C[BOThater36 [4d\]: but later B can fight like lion
kukulis4 [2d\]: white g13 next
Ootakamoku [2d\]: oh, m17 should have been obvious
Ootakamoku [2d\]: m13 shines now
BOThater36 [4d\]: most of 4-1 players now had been thru pro training except Calvin
Eduardo [2k\]: calvin is kgs training? :p
USGO1 [-\]: Calvin's teacher is Mingjiu Jiang 7p
vitamancy [7k\]: "through pro training" is different than 1p, though?
gondwana [6k\]: usgo1 what's the feeling in the room ?
ThiGar [3k\]: Calvin Sun's been around for a few years, no?
BOThater36 [4d\]: I used to gave Calvin handful stones and beat he, now he gives me 4 stones and kick my ass
cjalden [2k\]: won the junior Redmond in 2006
Eduardo [2k\]: all need a pro teacher bothater :/
EdhelDil [3k\]: calvin is playing here? or are you talking about another match?
Eduardo [2k\]: no edhe
BOThater36 [4d\]: his game is not braodcast
EdhelDil [3k\]: ah, ok (was wondering if it was another name for one of those)
USGO1 [-\]: Calvin is playing on board 4 (not being recorded or braodcasted)
EdhelDil [3k\]: thx
]
;B[rc]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: w won?
]
;W[nb]C[Wagaboo [2k\]: p18 ? i'm surprised
EdhelDil [3k\]: g14 ? 
Eduardo [2k\]: hmmm...looks difficult for b , but
Wagaboo [2k\]: looks like yose move
EdhelDil [3k\]: ah...
BOThater36 [4d\]: seems cho confident now
Eduardo [2k\]: cmon , he can still
Muttley [2k\]: b really needs to start exercising some power in the centre around here
Muttley [2k\]: but living is going to be gote, I bet
gondwana [6k\]: b is already alive
Muttley [2k\]: I want L11 for b, and then the top is big ...
Muttley [2k\]: oh, b is :P
BOThater36 [4d\]: how about L12, LOL
Eduardo [2k\]: i prefer k12
EdhelDil [3k\]: i wouldn't tenuki here...
Ootakamoku [2d\]: l12 is about how much b needs in my eyes
EdhelDil [3k\]: p18 n18 o15 ?
BOThater36 [4d\]: B10 tell me that b loses point in that ko
Ootakamoku [2d\]: w gets a bit of thickness here in sente and then plays g13
EdhelDil [3k\]: ootamoku: g14 seems less open (and still restricts a bit black potential as well) ?
USGO1 [-\]: to answer an earlier question.. the feeling in the room is getting louder, as more games are finishing up and stones are being nosily being returned to their bowls and more spectators are coming in
Eduardo [2k\]: xD
EdhelDil [3k\]: usgo: all players in the same big area? no special place for top players?
Eduardo [2k\]: arent they  on a special room?
USGO1 [-\]: USGO1 is getting distracted with making sure USGO2 and USGO3 are doing ok
dogbert [3d\]: should have martin service for top players:)
BOThater36 [4d\]: lol, he is the leader
dogbert [3d\]: martinin
bran [3k\]: b 12 and fights like lion
bran [3k\]: m12
USGO1 [-\]: the top 24 boards are in a separate room from the rest of the players
]
;B[pe]C[HKA [2d\]: A room usually run with an iron fist
BOThater36 [4d\]: QUIET!!!
USGO1 [-\]: and the top 4 boards are behind stachions to keep the spectators at bay
]
;W[pf]C[dogbert [3d\]: look like b is coming out or trying to
]
;B[ob]C[Achiles [2k\]: *pin drops*
Eduardo [2k\]: yeah, martinin xd, dogbert rules for usgo! :p
dogbert [3d\]: maybe not
]
;W[nd]
;B[mc]
;W[ld]C[Wagaboo [2k\]: i was SURE about o16 !!
USGO1 [-\]: that iron fist went home early :)
]
;B[mb]C[dogbert [3d\]: if they offer martini service, some one would order shaken not stirred. lol
BOThater36 [4d\]: noext move, any1?
Achiles [2k\]: J13
vitamancy [7k\]: g14
dogbert [3d\]: g14 always a good one
bran [3k\]: w q 8
BOThater36 [4d\]: G14 good looking, but open at M18
BOThater36 [4d\]: L10?
Eduardo [2k\]: xd, martini service  and a pro massage therapist too for each game xD
vitamancy [7k\]: On the board I'd play m18 in a heartbeat here, but I know in my heart it's the wrong move.
Ootakamoku [2d\]: g14 feels too defensive
]
;W[gg]
;B[df]C[Eduardo [2k\]: w + 20?
BOThater36 [4d\]: u must get it from SE
]
;W[cf]C[Eduardo [2k\]: hmm, SE is ....:/. i use not SE xd
]
;B[md]C[WuHoUnited [1k\]: i wouldn't have a clue whith squares to coutn
Achiles [2k\]: center not settled though
BOThater36 [4d\]: N16 surprise
Eduardo [2k\]: m15
]
;W[le]C[Wagaboo [2k\]: m15  obiously
Eduardo [2k\]: :p
Wagaboo [2k\]: w shape is ok
Ootakamoku [2d\]: I couldn't count at all until I was egf 1 dan strength
Wagaboo [2k\]: what did b got ?
Wagaboo [2k\]: nothing
Wagaboo [2k\]: Ootakamoku what wouldn't you count ?
vitamancy [7k\]: is h15 too aggressive?
academia [5d\]: White leads
Ootakamoku [2d\]: I would g17
Muttley [2k\]: G16 cannot be resisted
]
;B[me]
;W[mf]C[Muttley [2k\]: the white area will be assimilated
tywin [2d?\]: h15 not "aggressive" so much as "suicidal". I think.
vitamancy [7k\]: :)
Wagaboo [2k\]: h15 : how to lose the game easily
]
;B[gi]C[academia [5d\]: The moves N16 and N17 make Black's situation even worse
Ootakamoku [2d\]: wagaboo, practically anything, I kept running out of fingers for most purposes
BOThater36 [4d\]: B center thickness suddenly became not much effective after losng the left side ko
malu [?\]: How many games must a man watch here before you call him a man ?
Ootakamoku [2d\]: j11 for troll value
vitamancy [7k\]: 42
BOThater36 [4d\]: malu...
]
;W[hi]
;B[hj]
;W[hh]
;B[ij]C[malu [?\]: hello
tywin [2d?\]: (Also, for the record, your name bothers me a little. 'Vita-' is from Latin, but '-mancy' is from Greek. Yes, I know, it's a pun, but still. </pedant>)
academia [5d\]: M18
vitamancy [7k\]: tywin - just like "automobile"?
malu [?\]: could u give me a link to the actual results of this tournament pls?
Wagaboo [2k\]: f12  is big
vitamancy [7k\]: http://www.usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/166
malu [?\]: thanks!
charkysan [-\]: w ahead, but not by as much as it looks at first glance
academia [5d\]: Black needs two moves to enclose the middle area.  
]
;W[lb]
;B[jh]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: push and cut to give ba chance to catch up
]
;W[jg]
;B[kh]
;W[ig]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: o6 very soon
vitamancy [7k\]: b is making more territory than I'd have thought.  And he's got two ways to invade white.
academia [5d\]: it's better than L13
malu [?\]: o6 not big move
]
;B[ff]
;W[ge]
;B[gf]
;W[hf]
;B[fe]
;W[fd]C[KemoClaw [3k\]: looks like b can't quite pay komi
]
;B[he]
;W[gd]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: n10 maybe?
]
;B[gh]
;W[bk]C[bran [3k\]: now its even
malu [?\]: t6 t7 t4 
Ootakamoku [2d\]: can resign now
Wagaboo [2k\]: whoa
charkysan [-\]: you don't get to 7d by resigning before chances exhausted
Wagaboo [2k\]: and the result here is w + resign
academia [5d\]: White is more and more likely to win
malu [?\]: g2
Wagaboo [2k\]: w has almost 10 points ahead
cjalden [2k\]: You don't resign championship game quite that quickly
Wagaboo [2k\]: he should it's relly lost here
USGO1 [-\]: Evan steps away from the table, Yuhan puts his stone back in the bowl
herissondu [2d\]: that's how you got 5k?
charkysan [-\]: i'm a kyu player, and i don't know much, but i know fighting spirit
herissondu [2d\]: and you know how to get 7d too
charkysan [-\]: 7d presumably has much more fighting spirit
Wagaboo [2k\]: b can't play the ko !
ka [2d?\]: lol
malu [?\]: high dans resign more likely than kyu players, ots not about fighting spirit but skills
ChrisBrown [4d\]: ko too light for white
]
;B[ci]
;W[aj]
;B[gr]
;W[br]C[charkysan [-\]: if a very strong player resigns, it's because he knows his strength and his opponent's strength, and knows when chances to beat a strong player have been exhausted
Wagaboo [2k\]: completly right 
charkysan [-\]: not like so many kyu players who play on hoping for the opponent to make a mistake
Wagaboo [2k\]: i learn that to th ppl in my club
Wagaboo [2k\]: why do you try stuff when you're behind of 50 points
Wagaboo [2k\]: on top it's simple silly stuff
Wagaboo [2k\]: it's too late anyway
charkysan [-\]: it's ok for learners to try stuff.  practicing endgame is good even when you are losing
herissondu [2d\]: it's wasting your opponents' time
gondwana [6k\]: endgame is meaningless if you're losing
herissondu [2d\]: yep
Wagaboo [2k\]: yes, i don't even answer properly
tywin [2d?\]: But it's important to know the difference between fighting spirit and bullheaded stubbornness.
Wagaboo [2k\]: in the endgame whe, i win big
rinpa [2d\]: endgame is not the same if the other guy is winning by 100pts
cjalden [2k\]: This is not a 50 or 100 point game
Samutra [?\]: n11
]
;B[ck]
;W[bl]
;B[bm]C[KemoClaw [3k\]: anyone care to tell me why black pushed at N16?
herissondu [2d\]: i don't
]
;W[fg]
;B[fh]
;W[hg]C[academia [5d\]: This is bad for White
]
;B[dg]C[HelloQtion [-\]: why ?
herissondu [2d\]: d1 is quite big
Wagaboo [2k\]: n10 
Wagaboo [2k\]: it's worth 15 points
charkysan [-\]: after mutual reductions, w still slightly ahead.  if b can get more of center on right, he could get ahead
academia [5d\]: two reasons: (1) it removed a ko and (2) it lost a liberty
HelloQtion [-\]: ah didn't noticed the ko
HelloQtion [-\]: I will look at that
indianayk [4d\]: after all, the initial j5 wall appears a little overconcentrated
tywin [2d?\]: 45 points upper left, 15-20 between lower right and lower left, plus komi, w has 65-70 points; 10 points UR, 15 right, maybe 40 solidly in the center.
Ootakamoku [2d\]: n10
tywin [2d?\]: Too close for me to call, especially without seeing how the rest of the center pans out.
academia [5d\]: White could go F12 if there was a condition
charkysan [-\]: whoever gets into center right first will have better chances
Muttley [2k\]: w has sente, b behind on the board imho
SantaClaus [-\]: wow
Muttley [2k\]: I think w+10 or so, as much as that
SantaClaus [-\]: i left for about 30 minutes and all this happens?
evave [5k\]: o6 ?
herissondu [2d\]: o6
jwc [-\]:  n9
academia [5d\]: good move
]
;W[mi]C[academia [5d\]: too cautious
herissondu [2d\]: m19
Ootakamoku [2d\]: no rush with m19, it's b right
Thoravatar [4d\]: w+ 5-10
xDragon [?\]: W probably counted
charkysan [-\]: that last move put w up about 10
herissondu [2d\]: nah w didn't count no way
charkysan [-\]: so coming out of the exchange on the left with a free move was important
xDragon [?\]: As to why he chose n11
Ootakamoku [2d\]: ya, this move looks like w playing a move that is enough
Muttley [2k\]: w believes he's ahead, simple as that
herissondu [2d\]: and he's right
Muttley [2k\]: b fighting to keep as much of the centre as possible
vitamancy [7k\]: is there a potential threat with k11 for white?
charkysan [-\]: some say that you don't have to find the perfect move, only the move that is worth more than your opponent's move
papalouw [2d\]: s15 looks big
Muttley [2k\]: so w will say "I shall snipe it away"
Muttley [2k\]: rather than risk a fight
Muttley [2k\]: there is of course, vitamancy
Muttley [2k\]: there's a cut there eventually b has to protect, so another reason for solid reduction is not to allow b to protect the cut in sente, maybe
BOThater36 [4d\]: chark, u just said you beat ur opponent becasue u r better than him
indianayk [4d\]: s15 not big at this juncture
charkysan [-\]: 7d isn't afraid of a fight, surely!  he would know when it's to his advantage to fight tho
Muttley [2k\]: not afraid, knows when not to :))
]
;B[kg]
;W[kf]
;B[jf]C[Muttley [2k\]: there's also bad aji at g10
]
;W[je]C[Muttley [2k\]: trying to protect cut in sente
academia [5d\]: strange moves
]
;B[lj]C[jytsao [-\]: how much time does eachh player have left?
]
;W[li]C[Muttley [2k\]: jytsao, game recorder is in a different room to players, so hard to report
USGO1 [-\]: I can't see the clock, and it hasn't started talking yet
jytsao [-\]: ah, i see
]
;B[mj]C[Muttley [2k\]: mmm :/
jytsao [-\]: lol
Muttley [2k\]: hehehe, hasn't started talking yet
Nikolaj [2k\]: announcers cant see.. its a overlook camera
academia [5d\]: very good
Muttley [2k\]:  hum, b may make it close this way
USGO1 [-\]: until the clock starts talking, they've got all the time in the world
tywin [2d?\]: B says "I will fight you anyway".
]
;W[kj]C[Muttley [2k\]: spirit says l10 only :))
Thoravatar [4d\]: just cut
academia [5d\]: it's a win-or-lose move
KemoClaw [3k\]: shobute
]
;B[ki]
;W[kk]C[Muttley [2k\]: can only cut
USGO1 [-\]: bam!
Muttley [2k\]: well, w started a bit argy bargy
academia [5d\]: Here's the deciding battle
Ootakamoku [2d\]: b just plays moves that give him enough IF it works
Sumeria [2d?\]: what does argy bargy mean pls?
Wagaboo [2k\]: whoa
jytsao [-\]: i thought consensus was that w is ahead
Muttley [2k\]: rough and tumble, close up fighting
Thoravatar [4d\]: white's two stones will probably escape
Nikolaj [2k\]: that fight!
Muttley [2k\]: contact :)
Thoravatar [4d\]: but it is a chance for black i would say
Muttley [2k\]: MMA on a go board :)
]
;B[jj]C[Wagaboo [2k\]: i bet w will sacrifice hese 2 stones to destroy b points
herissondu [2d\]: n8 maybe
cjalden [2k\]: thought you already resigned, Wagaboo
gondwana [6k\]: how can w escape ?
Ootakamoku [2d\]: m8 is shape here
Wagaboo [2k\]: using the door
academia [5d\]: Black should feel good about this opportunity.
Wagaboo [2k\]: the door shape
Ootakamoku [2d\]: but maybe okay more flexible and take o6 into account
Nikolaj [2k\]: the door shape?
Wagaboo [2k\]: that's a joke sorry :p
Nikolaj [2k\]: ok
academia [5d\]: If White cannot save the two stones, it will lose.
Muttley [2k\]: must cut at G10 ;)
Sumeria [2d?\]: go humor >_<
Nikolaj [2k\]: ^^
Muttley [2k\]: then throw in
tywin [2d?\]: This is why we are go players and not professional comedians, Sumeria.
Muttley [2k\]: and get killed in a snapback
academia [5d\]: O10 is unacceptable for White.
Thoravatar [4d\]: i think m11 was a misread
Sumeria [2d?\]: im too afraid to be a comedian... people might laugh at me
Sumeria [2d?\]: ;}
Wagaboo [2k\]: N9 is the only solution
Nikolaj [2k\]: so bad xD
Ootakamoku [2d\]: n7
dogbert [3d\]: o9 or n8
dogbert [3d\]: fight fight
academia [5d\]: White must feel sorry for his recent 3 moves
dogbert [3d\]: i would play n11 at n10, lol
USGO1 [-\]: Evan sits back for a moment and fans himself. He lets out a quiet humm
ChrisBrown [4d\]: black has no territory
gacua [1d\]: White has O6 so he'll want to play that now
Muttley [2k\]: except that bit
academia [5d\]: M8 is almost the only move
USGO1 [-\]: He found a black stone in his bowl.. he took a moment to recount the captures before putting it back into black's bowl
Thus [3d\]: m8 o9 
indianayk [4d\]: I don't see any correct answer by b for m8
ChrisBrown [4d\]: so confident of counting
Thoravatar [4d\]: are the players 7d AGA or asian?
cjalden [2k\]: both
jytsao [-\]: lol
Muttley [2k\]: if m8 works that would be pretty remarkable :)
academia [5d\]: What other moves than M8?
Illyria [?\]: yuhan zhang's rating is certainly chinese
dogbert [3d\]: they probably aga 9d
kuiper [-\]: n8?
Thoravatar [4d\]: ok thx
Thus [3d\]: n7 
Illyria [?\]: there is no AGA 9d
tywin [2d?\]: AGA ranks are normally capped at 7d, aren't they?
Illyria [?\]: yes
indianayk [4d\]: if m8, o9 is the only answer by b
Rukis [1k\]: no there are they just stop at seven
cjalden [2k\]: for tournament pairings they are capped
xDragon [?\]: Yet the value can go above 7. Thus 9d
academia [5d\]: If N8, Black can simply go M9.
dogbert [3d\]: billlin actually aga 8d already
Tabemasu [2d?\]: you should be clear if you're talking about rank or rating when having his discussion
xDragon [?\]: Evan is 9d aga
USGO1 [-\]: Evan fidgets in his chair, turning sideways fanning himself, and back again
Tabemasu [2d?\]: this discussion*
]
;W[ml]C[dogbert [3d\]: before andy became pro he was about 9d
kuiper [-\]: :-)
Rukis [1k\]: he still is
dogbert [3d\]: right again:)
academia [5d\]: wow
academia [5d\]: O10 or M9
Illyria [?\]: yes, tabemasu is right, AGA rank can only go to 7d, but rating can go to 9d
jytsao [-\]: there's a difference between rank and rating?
Illyria [?\]: yes
USGO1 [-\]: aga ratings don't have "d"'s on them. They are just decemial numbers. People generally truncate the decimal and add d or k for a sudo rank
herissondu [2d\]: where can we see a schedule of AGA players?
jytsao [-\]: ah
MilesK [4k\]: how will aga pros advance in rank? korean tournaments?
USGO1 [-\]: *psudo
academia [5d\]: We will congratulate Yuhan Zhang on his championship soon. 
tywin [2d?\]: pseudo, usgo1?
Illyria [?\]: *pseudo
USGO1 [-\]: thanks :)
gondwana [6k\]: they will fight each other with a knife, whoever is standing at the end gets promoted
charkysan [-\]: academia, how about o10 with l8 followup, depending on w does?
USGO1 [-\]: I usually use Google as my spell checker, but I'm trying to pay attention to the game
Illyria [?\]: fair enough
SantaClaus [2k?\]: sounds like hunger games XD
Illyria [?\]: btw, how much time do the players have left?
ankou [3k\]: Holmgang legal in the US?
USGO1 [-\]: the clocks still haven't started talking
Muttley [2k\]: Amazing what medication can do.
USGO1 [-\]: I assume it'll bark out a 10min and 5 min warning like the ing clocks do
Illyria [?\]: ok
academia [5d\]: Where's I8?  I didn't see the location. 
dogbert [3d\]: too many linguistic police in the room, lol and jeniffer aniston once said you just need one finger to express yourself-words are too overrated:)
Tabemasu [2d?\]: i am not sure how to capture these w stones
Wagaboo [2k\]: what a complicaed position !
indianayk [4d\]: if o10, m7 would be the answer by w
eig [2k\]: o9
USGO1 [-\]: this round started a little after 9am, and its close to non now
Muttley [2k\]: academia, ctrl L :)
Wagaboo [2k\]: o10 p8 ... then abaaah
Wagaboo [2k\]: idk
dogbert [3d\]: too m9 or not to m9
Wagaboo [2k\]: m9 is wrong i think
Wagaboo [2k\]: m8 too
charkysan [-\]: how about p9?
academia [5d\]: Black O10 then White O6 then Black M8
sandbag [3d\]: p9 o10 charky
huso [3k\]: 09 
academia [5d\]: O9 then O8
USGO1 [-\]: As the lunch break approaches, the noise level increases again
Wagaboo [2k\]: i see a ko i think...
charkysan [-\]: if b wants to seal off the moyo to the left, how about m8 and fight?
charkysan [-\]: sacrificing n10 as needed
USGO1 [-\]: there is one player, who is quite sinsitive to noise when he's playing, seems to be the loudest in the room at the moment
huso [3k\]: 09-08-p9?
USGO1 [-\]: *sensitive
academia [5d\]: If White loses the game, he will feel very sorry.  He was so close to the finish line. 
BOThater36 [4d\]: K. A?
charkysan [-\]: doesn't pay to show sensitivity to noise.  your opponent then will start grinding his stones around in the bowl
chiron [3k?\]: w winning
USGO1 [-\]: Most strong players I've seen, seem quite oblivious to noises around them
chiron [3k?\]: oh, maybe thats why I'm not sotrng
academia [5d\]: Are the two players taking a lunch break?
Tenue [5d\]: No.
USGO1 [-\]: Yuhan especially seems most unfazed, as he remains in almost the same posture whether its his turn or not, throughout the game
jytsao [-\]: lol
charkysan [-\]: it's standard coaching at the highest level in many sports to specifically practice ignoring distractions of crowd noise, flashing cameras, etc.
chiron [3k?\]: sigh, I gues I'll never be a superstar
USGO1 [-\]: Evan is asking Yuhan about taking a lunch break
academia [5d\]: Who is Yuhan Zhang?  Is he a new player in American Go Congress?
rayquaza [6d\]: chinese 6d
Illyria [?\]: he's a visiting chinese go player
USGO1 [-\]: the TD arrives, they've paused the clock
guapo [2k\]: n8 is pretty
USGO1 [-\]: they are sealing black's move now
academia [5d\]: So a visiting Chinese 6D can be a U.S. champion?
BOThater36 [4d\]: I will put my PC into sleep mode
Illyria [?\]: yup, it's an open tourament
Illyria [?\]: tournament*
guapo [2k\]: like in tennis
USGO1 [-\]: they will return in 45 mins (12:45p)
USGO1 [-\]: b:35 mins  w:26 mins
USGO1 [-\]: both players are returning from lunch now
USGO1 [-\]: the TD comes over to open the sealed move
AA76 [6k?\]: ahhhh :)
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;B[nj]C[Kmiia [14k\]: can i watch the game some where?
Wagaboo [2k\]: that was the only move
USGO1 [-\]: you're watching it here
Wagaboo [2k\]: oh if w p10 it's efficient !
Illyria [?\]: you could go to tacoma washington and watch it in person
Kmiia [14k\]: i mean like see the players play and stuff
Stim [9k\]: ^ he means a live stream
Kmiia [14k\]: yea
Illyria [?\]: there's no live stream of anything at USGC
USGO1 [-\]: I am your eyes
kukulis4 [2d\]: there we are
USGO1 [-\]: both players have their arms folded on the edge of the table and sit quietly staring at the board
Thoravatar [4d\]: suprise move
Thoravatar [4d\]: :P
]
;W[om]C[tywin [2d?\]: I wonder if the players spent their lunch break thinking about the game, or just trying to relax?
USGO1 [-\]: Evan slams that stone down loudly
manofearth [?\]: America doesn't dote on broadcast media
kukulis4 [2d\]: black M9 now ?
disaster: will b eat the center?
Kmiia [14k\]: usgo, are you actually there right now?
Achiles [2k\]: not all of it
LarryG [3d\]: M8
disaster: p8 
dutch2dan [2d\]: p6?
kukulis4 [2d\]: There is a threat white playing at P9
Thoravatar [4d\]: i guess m9 m8 l8 l7 k8 is no good enough for black
Thoravatar [4d\]: not*
]
;B[ll]C[holynec [-\]: Haro my fwends.
]
;W[lm]C[Illyria [?\]: it's the king of KGS!
disaster: wow good guess LarryG 
LarryG [3d\]: :)
disaster: l8 now?
serge417 [1d\]: n7?
LarryG [3d\]: P6 is the aim of black
disaster: yeah I wondered about the big cut 
holynec [-\]: The Fan is the European champion? :d
copyright [2d\]: p6 
manofearth [?\]: I have a dumb question about breaks that I couldn't because apparently this game window took a break along with the players
Ootakamoku [2d\]: apparently something else was on a break too if the question is dumb
disaster: lol
dogbert [3d\]: b need some serious help
]
;B[ol]C[Achiles [2k\]: how to help?
disaster: hmm, apparently p6 did not work :(
guapo [2k\]: from the gods of go
shellgame [17k?\]: is this finals?
guapo [2k\]: yes
manofearth [?\]: unless, of course, I label it dumb in recognition of how I exspect it 2b generally perceived
dogbert [3d\]: m6?
disaster: o7 
guapo [2k\]: if b wins he wins the open, if he loses i dont know who wins
bbgun: looks not so good for b
kukulis4 [2d\]: still fight
Gabesoda [1k?\]: why not just o7
Ag [5k\]: j8 /;<}
vitamancy [7k\]: what here for white?  o7?
Achiles [2k\]: o7 should be enough
manofearth [?\]: so Cho  has bn defeated, unlike  Zhang?
vitamancy [7k\]: yes.
disaster: hey hey it my move !!
vitamancy [7k\]: yes, but when you suggested it, it looked like a disaster.
kukulis4 [2d\]: there is some aji around o13
dogbert [3d\]: w o7 b could m6
dogbert [3d\]: n6
Nosabe [-\]: if o7 then n6 ?
Gabesoda [1k?\]: how would m6 work
Gabesoda [1k?\]: can't white just push through?
rinpa [2d\]: n6 not m6
Gabesoda [1k?\]: oh
Gabesoda [1k?\]: right
Gabesoda [1k?\]: i see
Nosabe [-\]: o7, n6, n7, p6
vitamancy [7k\]: o7 n6 n7 seems okay for w, right?  Or does the p6 cut work?
adwue [4k\]: p10
Gabesoda [1k?\]: yeah
rinpa [2d\]: it threatens to cut at p6
kukulis4 [2d\]: yeah
kukulis4 [2d\]: I see now :)
vitamancy [7k\]: doesn't white have a counter-cut at m5 then?  I can't quite read it.
playful [?\]: w can't o7 cause b will just cut at p6
USGO1 [-\]: Evan starts to play a stone, but then pulls back
]
;W[nl]C[USGO1 [-\]: Yuhan's concentration is unbroken
Merlot [1k\]: W win
kukulis4 [2d\]: :)
holynec [-\]: What pro rank is b
holynec [-\]: Estimated
guapo [2k\]: none
USGO1 [-\]: he puts one of the stones he has on the table in front of him, back into his bowl
Nosabe [-\]: o6 ?
kukulis4 [2d\]: black p9 wrong ?
shellgame [15k?\]: color commentary as naptime story :)
BOThater36 [4d\]: very few variations here, game has been decided
disaster: w 66 + komi b 60 my count so b must eat more of the center to win - right?
]
;B[on]
;W[nm]
;B[lk]C[guapo [2k\]: o5
holynec [-\]: B is going to lose?!
guapo [2k\]: no p9
]
;W[ok]C[disaster: I'd say very close game now
dogbert [3d\]: b want to keep m7 in his bag for sure
Merlot [1k\]: not close
]
;B[mn]C[USGO1 [-\]: Yuhan slaps that one down
YO1d: Nice move
YO1d: ..
KemoClaw [3k\]: so far, all i had read
HelloQtion [-\]: q8 
playful [?\]: awesome commentay by USGO1
Gabesoda [1k?\]: q8 threaten to kill r6
guapo [2k\]: whats with this move
peakoil [3d\]: q8 not a kill threat
myongstu [5d\]: :)it gives us the feeling to be right beside the players 
Illyria [?\]: USGO1 is a pro game recorder
adwue [4k\]: m6
tywin [2d?\]: It breaks the net on p6 while threatening to cut n7, guapo.
]
;W[pl]C[disaster: sente move isnt it?
]
;B[ql]C[guapo [2k\]: but w just takes like this
peakoil [3d\]: oh yes it is
peakoil [3d\]: (was)
playful [?\]: seems b can't win
BOThater36 [4d\]: B needs to get S4 to have any chance
myongstu [5d\]: l7
HelloQtion [-\]: l7 
rinpa [2d\]: couldn't b have played r9 instead of r8 to retain sente?
peakoil [3d\]: l7 ouch!
HelloQtion [-\]: Well b cant cut because 5 libs against 4
peakoil [3d\]: good question rinpa
HelloQtion [-\]: l7 l8 looks like a must
BOThater36 [4d\]: L7 gift
disaster: so b lost :(
peakoil [3d\]: what about rinpa's question? wouldn't r9 have been superior to r8?
BOThater36 [4d\]: b dare white to play l7
KemoClaw [3k\]: is this game scheduled to be commented by pros? 
Thoravatar [4d\]: BOT: after which black will resign?
BOThater36 [4d\]: B diehard fighter
BOThater36 [4d\]: U want to win US open with perfect record
myongstu [5d\]: what is w doing? try to find a way to win by 0.5?
]
;W[mm]C[Yezurof [8k\]: How much time have they left ?
HelloQtion [-\]: oh
kukulis4 [2d\]: n7 big
USGO1 [-\]: Evan shakes his head a bit after playing this move
kukulis4 [2d\]: but risky
myongstu [5d\]: he saw l7 now
globax [3d\]: r8 should be r9
disaster: l7 and b still in the game? 
HelloQtion [-\]: n7 is surprising to me
BOThater36 [4d\]: this is enough for w
Mukti [4d\]: O11
kukulis4 [2d\]: black o11, but may black play o11 before l7 ?
peakoil [3d\]: if b had played r9, white could not n7
kukulis4 [2d\]: may be better is just L7 and get sente ?
globax [3d\]: r8 osing move ?
globax [3d\]: b lost sente
]
;B[km]C[peakoil [3d\]: I think so
]
;W[ln]C[BOThater36 [4d\]: narr, B was trailing long ago
myongstu [5d\]: f2
Thoravatar [4d\]: m6 gote?
copyright [2d\]: m19 
]
;B[ni]
;W[nh]C[BOThater36 [4d\]: ?
Herod [-\]: b couldn't very well allow w r8
LarryG [3d\]: o6
backpack1 [3d\]: so, if b looses: who is the new Champion ?
]
;B[ng]C[BOThater36 [4d\]: may still b
guapo [2k\]: they should make a final between the top 2 players
xDragon [?\]: Theres 2 other people who could have won if b lost as of the start of the round
]
;W[nf]
;B[nn]C[xDragon [?\]: Evan being one of them..unsure of tiebreaker
BOThater36 [4d\]: 2 other almost have no chance
playful [?\]: what is b doing?
playful [?\]: he is so much behind
Thoravatar [4d\]: i didn't see how white could connect on that side
playful [?\]: no chance
Soromon [1d\]: forcing white to go back for Q10
AzureSea [4d\]: uhh
AzureSea [4d\]: why didn't b p10
AzureSea [4d\]: why did he o6
vitamancy [7k\]: q10 is now a cut threat for b?
xDragon [?\]: Bmay still have tiebreaker since he won his first 5
BOThater36 [4d\]: O6 proper
Gabesoda [1k?\]: 05 works
AzureSea [4d\]: whats wrong with p10
Gabesoda [1k?\]: if not b o6
AzureSea [4d\]: ohh o5
BOThater36 [4d\]: white O5
AzureSea [4d\]: kk
LarryG [3d\]: black got sente now, he will go M19
USGO1 [-\]: the clock says white has 5 mins left
Mukti [4d\]: B not that far behind, it's quite close actually.
kukulis4 [2d\]: I dont understand O6 too
kukulis4 [2d\]: if black played Q10 instead of it
BOThater36 [4d\]: O6 has been explained
peakoil [3d\]: why not b q10 instead of o6? 
disaster: Mukti you are my man and I feel like a dan player :D 
Gabesoda [1k?\]: if black skips it white play o5 to connect
peakoil [3d\]: Ah ok
peakoil [3d\]: o5 tesuji
peakoil [3d\]: thanks
Soromon [1d\]: What does black do with sente? s4 seems bigger than t17 by a little bit.
BOThater36 [4d\]: S15 bigger than S4
xDragon [?\]: I don't see how o5 works
Mukti [4d\]: D1 is big sente for black.
Soromon [1d\]: o5 nets the p6 stone
tywin [2d?\]: It's a net, xDragon.
]
;W[oi]C[copyright [2d\]: m19 
Herod [-\]: net of p6
kukulis4 [2d\]: yeah
xDragon [?\]: O5 n5
asdgar: o5 kills
deadCow [2k?\]: now w can L6?
kukulis4 [2d\]: ah, o5 was the net ..
globax [3d\]: f2-m19-s4
TheCoon [1d\]: yea o5 was nice
tywin [2d?\]: Before o6 was played, xDragon. o5 n5 o6, w connects.
HelloQtion [-\]: they're alking about o5 before o6 i assume
kukulis4 [2d\]: thats why they are 7d
xDragon [?\]: Oh ok
asdgar: yes it doesn't work anymore
LarryG [3d\]: d15 or m19
kukulis4 [2d\]: what about d1 ?
TheCoon [1d\]: big move
]
;B[mh]
;W[lh]C[globax [3d\]: rather 2line than 1 line
]
;B[oh]C[TheCoon [1d\]: sente
]
;W[kn]C[deadCow [2k?\]: what about double atari!
]
;B[jn]
;W[sn]C[globax [3d\]: f2 makes 1 point terrytory, d1 none
playful [?\]: b will resign soon
]
;B[sm]C[deadCow [2k?\]: playful: wanna bet?
kukulis4 [2d\]: black q9 sente
playful [?\]: no, don't want to bet :)
]
;W[rg]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: q9 gote
globax [3d\]: q9 gote !
kukulis4 [2d\]: why?
Merlot [1k\]: S13 is tesuji
Gabesoda [1k?\]: how?
gggf: q9 sente lol
playful [?\]: s13 good
]
;B[rh]C[rats [2d?\]: to prevent black s15 in sente
globax [3d\]: t5 gives corner ko or stne
BOThater36 [4d\]: I would S15 rather  O13.
LarryG [3d\]: w+3.5
]
;W[la]C[disaster: nothing a good jose cant change
gggf: w is ahead by a lot
]
;B[ds]C[gggf: never thought he could win
disaster: go b !!
gggf: frankly I expected yuhan to crush evan, considering how badly he played before
serge417 [1d\]: a2
globax [3d\]: a2
playful [?\]: w up like 20 points
kukulis4 [2d\]: shouldnt black played M19 before taking O12 stone?
gggf: yeah
USGO1 [-\]: white is in byo-yomi now
]
;W[ar]
;B[de]
;W[ce]C[Mukti [4d\]: No,playful.
FuzzFace [1k\]: w win by 0.5
FuzzFace [1k\]: i do the yosé
]
;B[kr]C[gggf: w up by a lot
]
;W[od]
;B[oc]C[globax [3d\]: m19 so painful
gggf: not 20, but 10
]
;W[kl]
;B[jm]C[deadCow [2k?\]: cute
USGO1 [-\]: timesuji
Kmiia [14k\]: white's bottom left side is alive correct?
]
;W[sp]
;B[rn]C[Gabesoda [1k?\]: yes
eureka [5k\]: correct
Gabesoda [1k?\]: b1
]
;W[lo]C[kmr [1d\]: after fuseki, black position was so good where he made this fatal mistake?!
Meto [2d\]: t17
gggf: is w lower right alive?!?!?
gggf: q2 kills right?!?!?
]
;B[ls]
;W[nr]C[TheCoon [1d\]: p4
disaster: a2 made it alive after d1 I think, Kmiia
]
;B[pk]
;W[oj]
;B[so]C[TheCoon [1d\]: o right
kukulis4 [2d\]: may be black's mistake was to take top right corner
TheCoon [1d\]: p04 terrible
kukulis4 [2d\]: he should go to center more
]
;W[rp]
;B[sc]C[disaster: w has one eye at e4 and now second eye at a1
]
;W[re]C[Mukti [4d\]: w+1,5 or so. very close
]
;B[sg]
;W[fr]
;B[fs]
;W[mo]
;B[no]
;W[gq]C[Kmiia [14k\]: d1 or dead?
]
;B[es]C[Kmiia [14k\]: d2*
asdgar: not dead
]
;W[ms]
;B[ks]
;W[ma]
;B[na]C[gggf: I think b leading
disaster: no no, when b played d1 w had to play a2 to get eye at a1 
]
;W[pj]
;B[ol]C[deadCow [2k?\]: I count b ahead a bit...
]
;W[op]C[Kmiia [14k\]: oh my mistake white can just c3
]
;B[jo]
;W[pl]C[Mukti [4d\]: you told us w up by  lot 5 min. ago, gggf...
]
;B[qk]C[gggf: no, I said w is up by 20
asdgar: that's a lot
]
;W[ih]C[gggf: now b is ahead by about 32
]
;B[ji]C[adwue [4k\]: n13
disaster: yep, even if b c1 then b1
gggf: I think my counting is right now!!
Mukti [4d\]: and now you say b is leading...
Herod [-\]: and you said q2 kills corner
BOThater36 [4d\]: both loses
kmr [1d\]: i wonder why black played N12 and not M19, would white ignore M19?!
]
;W[ee]
;B[ef]
;W[ed]C[gggf: its a simple quantum phenomenon
]
;B[cl]
;W[ak]
;B[cs]C[BOThater36 [4d\]: B loses the game, white lose the US Champion
]
;W[bs]C[gggf: it's impossible to know who will win
disaster: see? :)
]
;B[ro]C[gggf: so counting is useless
]
;W[aq]C[Kmiia [14k\]: aye
]
;B[ap]C[gggf: everything in life is useless
disaster: c1 was sente move to win 1 point
asdgar: unless your playing yes
guapo [2k\]: se says b wins the us open
Kmiia [14k\]: i just thought that d2 would cut it and didn't see c3
FuzzFace [1k\]: b win
disaster: se is japanese, this is AGA counting
gggf: w win!
]
;W[am]
;B[an]C[vitamancy [7k\]: SE says black is ahead -- so white must be ahead.
meuns [1d\]: w+
myongstu [5d\]: c1 was about 10 points worth
]
;W[qd]
;B[al]
;W[ah]C[kmr [1d\]: W+2.5
disaster: c1 10 points? how? 
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;B[jl]C[Kmiia [14k\]: now d2 is a ko threat
Kmiia [14k\]: or c3
x0000 [-\]: w+1
Wagaboo [2k\]: n13 
]
;W[ol]C[myongstu [5d\]: u count sente double
kukulis4 [2d\]: c1 looks 1 point
]
;B[am]
;W[se]C[adwue [4k\]: s small lead...
]
;B[sf]C[gggf: d2 and c3 are excellent ko threats!
shellgame [15k?\]: there is question of outcome? mot long ago many saying game over, no chance, just resign
deadCow [2k?\]: maybe w will j11?
gggf: I would never have noticed!
]
;W[if]
;B[nh]C[LarryG [3d\]: w+0.5
]
;W[lf]
;B[hr]
;W[dr]
;B[gs]C[gggf: b+0.5
]
;W[cq]C[Kmiia [14k\]: the power of 14k :P
]
;B[pc]
;W[ne]
;B[jk]
;W[oe]C[HelloQtion [-\]: I'm surprised t17 is b
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;B[kp]
;W[er]C[meuns [1d\]: powhat ?
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;B[sd]
;W[mg]
;B[ii]
;W[og]
;B[mk]
;W[nk]C[disaster: I cannot count too well :( 
gggf: yes, b wins
Wagaboo [2k\]: p5
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;B[oo]C[shellgame [15k?\]: pass = 1 pt?
asdgar: i don
asdgar: t think so
x0000 [-\]: w+0.5 =)
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;W[]C[Herod [-\]: w must give stone when passing
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;B[]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: hm
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guapo [2k\]: w+0.5
USGO1 [-\]: Thay pass stones
kukulis4 [2d\]: taking o12 stone was so big?
USGO1 [-\]: they are counting now
kukulis4 [2d\]: so it let black to win the game !
myongstu [5d\]: b lost too much in the endgame starting from n7
HKA [2d\]: Thanks Dennis for relaying it for us
asdgar: wow
disaster: omg
Kmiia [14k\]: holy shit
xio [5k\]: pro
globax [3d\]: thx usgo01 !
Kmiia [14k\]: this game
kukulis4 [2d\]: white won?
USGO1 [-\]: waiting for the official count from the players
vitamancy [7k\]: thanks USGO.
disaster: thx USGO1 you are a pro !!
kukulis4 [2d\]: lol
USGO1 [-\]: W+0.5
xio [5k\]: make sure no cheating!
guapo [2k\]: so who wins the open?
shellgame [15k?\]: great relay, thanks usgo
MChow [1k\]: wow
zzz [2k\]: b p8 could win
Kmiia [14k\]: thanks sir usgo1!
disaster: omg
BeefCake [4d\]: YAYA EVAN
USGO1 [-\]: Thanks everyone for watching
Carpenter [-\]: thx
eboesch [1k\]: thx
copyright [2d\]: M19!!
deadCow [2k?\]: wow... thx
HelloQtion [-\]: thanks USGO
copyright [2d\]: M19 B wins
deadCow [2k?\]: now tie-break?
disaster: how many points was c1? in earnest?
gggf: w got lucky
vitamancy [7k\]: So the Open Champion is now decided by results of other games (on tie-break?)
selahaddin [7k\]: what is this 184 points?
hooloovoo [6k\]: why does SE sayb won by 7,5?
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